Merseyside, Chester & North Wales
Meeting Reports
Monday 17th NovemberReflections of the 1990s
Brian Roberts
Our branch member Brian Roberts produced a fascinating show reflecting on the Railway Scene in the 1990s at the Chester meeting of 17th November. Brian was able to show many different location shots across the railway network in that decade of enormous change. Here was an evening showing the changes in the operating companies and of the myriad use of liveries, some fondly remembered and others somehow forgotten. Many views were taken within the branch area especially with impressive views of trains taken from down below the Widnes-Runcorn viaduct. The many WCML diversions through St Helens and past Edge Hill and of the Cross Country services out of Liverpool in that decade brought back many memories. The closure of collieries and other industrial plants were also well chronicled as Brian always managed to get there in time to record the freight workings. In addition the meeting saw many of the new 9F 2-10-0 books being sold.
Monday 3rd November
The branch is grateful to the Wrexham Railway Society for its loan of their digital projector for the evening.
Railways of Saltney
Geoff Pickard
A very well attended meeting at Port Sunlight on 3rd November saw Geoff Pickard, co author of ‘Railways around Saltney’ give a highly nostalgic and enjoyable visit to the railway infrastructure and to the trains seen in that township just west of Chester. Three railway routes converged here and with extensive sidings and a loco shed at Mold Junction the area became a hive of activity. The rationalisation since the Beeching era now only sees the double track North Wales main line and the single line ex GWR route to Wrexham. It is hard to realise quite how heavy the summer holiday traffic really was with 249 workings passing by Saltney Jct over an 11 hours period one July Saturday in 1960 involving 172 locos, of which 64 were ‘Black 5s.’
Monday 20th October
Members Slides
The members’ evening in Chester of 20th October brought the expected and the unexpected subjects. John Cowlishaw revealed his East Lincolnshire roots and a picture from each year since 1970; Barry Shore showed some of the terminus slides he had not used in his evening at Port Sunlight; Geoff Morris highlighted South Wales and of scenes today in the valleys, including the changes at Abercynon; Alan Donaldson highlighted Germany and Luxembourg earlier this year complete with Arriva Trains at work and of a station named Aha; John Feild covered our branch’s visits this year as well as Tornado at Loughborough and Scots Guardsman at Chester; Gordon Davies took us up the Royal Gorge route following the Arkansas River out of Canyon City, which included a cab ride with magnificent scenic views and of a bear who had been loitering on the railroad.
Tuesday 14th October
Detailed observations are listed here.
Observation at Warrington Bank Quay
Eleven members and a former member who had seen the event publicised turned up at Warrington Bank Quay on 14th October. The weather turned wet in the afternoon but some excitement of sorts was had with a 158820 replacing a Cl.175 on the Llandudno shuttle and 33025 heading south as light engine at breakneck speed. Compensatory news that four Cl.67 and three Cl.47/8 locos were on Arpley EWS made up for the fact that there was only one Fiddler’s Ferry working during the day.
Monday 6th October
Railway terminals Part 1
Barry Shore
The opening meeting of the Port Sunlight season on 6th October saw Barry Shore produce an excellent show on station terminals he had visited in the North and in the East of England. By terminals he meant where journeys he had taken terminated so we were treated to views of 105 stations taken over a period of thirty years. Starting off from Port Sunlight we ventured north via Cumbria and Stranraer to Wick before heading south via the North East and down into East Anglia terminating the evening in London’s Liverpool Street. Barry produced encyclopaedic knowledge about each station’s history as well as reminding us of so many first generation electric and diesel units that worked the services when things seemed to be in decline. He reminded us also of those wonderful ADEX trains from Liverpool to all sorts of destinations 35 years ago such as to Cambridge where we saw the train headed by a Cl.25 and a Cl.31.
Sunday 5th October
Branch Stand at Wirral Bus and Tram Show
The branch had its regular spot at the annual Wirral Bus and Tram Show on 5th October. Attendance numbers seemed to be down on previous years with the branch funds only increasing slightly as a result. The main result is that the society gained much useful publicity and goodwill. Grateful thanks go to Gordon Davies, Alan Donaldson, Alan Turton and Bill Cashen for giving up either the whole or part of the day to man the stand.
Monday 15th September
UK Steam in the 60s
Hugh Ballantyne
Well over 50 members and visitors piled into the opening meeting of the Chester season on 15th September when Hugh Ballantyne highlighted BR steam in the 1960s. Starting off with the Eastern we saw many of the Pacifics on the GN main line in addition to views around the North East. The Southern followed concentrating on the Bulleid Pacifics as well as scenes around Guildford and Yeovil. The Western saw views of the Bath and Bristol area along with fascinating shots of the Cardiff Valley areas. The Midland saw superb views of steam over Shap and Beattock with the Stanier Pacifics receiving the most audience cclamation. Chester’s array of the LNWR signal gantries brought many memories flooding back and of course we finished with scenes in and around Bath Green Park. Hugh also showed many black and white scenes of workings in the 1950s and RCTS special trains were well featured throughout.
Tuesday 9th September
A detailed listing of observations at both Stafford and Nuneaton is available here.
Observation at Nuneaton
Only seven MC&NW members gathered on Nuneaton station on what could be called a drizzly day. On this occasion the Liverpool contingent outnumbered the Chester one. The usual outward journey stop at Stafford was made before continuing on to Nuneaton. Notable sightings were Fastline 66303 and hired in DRS 66418 working Daw Mill–Ratcliffe power station coal trains. The group was hassled by confusing station announcements that saw them shuttling to and from platform 6 supposedly to make their way home via Birmingham because their Pendolino back to Crewe and Liverpool was to have been diverted away from Nuneaton due to overhead line problems north of Rugby. The comforts of the nearby ASDA store and of the station buffet at Nuneaton are to be recommended.
Saturday 30th August
Churnet Valley Railway & Rudyard Lake Light Railway
A full report of this visit can be found here.
Saturday 23rd August
Long Marston
(Joint visit with West Riding Branch)
A full report of this visit appears here.
Tuesday 12th August
Only a few of the sightings from this fixture have been recorded and are listed here.
Observation at Warrington Bank Quay
Ten members attended this fixture. The Fiddlers Ferry coal workings brightened up what was otherwise a mundane day, which was interspersed with heavy rain showers and the occasional clap of thunder. The revamped station buffet is now open and like the one at Chester station does not accept the ‘Bite’ discount card. Work is progressing on the new booking office at the station entrance.
Sunday 27th July
Bala Lake Railway & Llangollen Railway
A full illustrated report appears here
Tuesday 15th July
A detailed listing of observations is available here.
Observation at Doncaster
A dozen members made their way across to Doncaster on 15th July for another of those lively observation sessions. For part of the day our number was added to by guest appearances from Steve Batty and Malcolm Riley with the latter joining in with our afternoon’s down platform in house entertainment. We were saddened that Geoff Morris our Outdoor Fixtures Secretary was unable to be present. The new National Express livery was beginning to make its appearance felt and the freight traffic was of especial interest especially when two DRS locos came through just before the Cl.185 for Manchester Airport was boarded for the return home. In addition the sight of a newly formed First Great Western 3 car Cl.158 (158958) moving in the sidings outside the works created great interest for all concerned.
Saturday 21st June
Visit to Siemens depot for First TransPennine Express, Ardwick
A full report of this visit can be found here
Tuesday 10th June
A detailed listing of observations is available here.
Observation at Warrington Bank Quay
The extended afternoon and evening station observations at Warrington Bank Quay on 10th June produced a dozen members and a great deal of friendly banter. The later schedule enabled the group to see electric locos hauling freight workings, to see the lone Cl.350 working to Preston and to see the Cl.325 Royal Mail units at work. Those who stayed until 20.45, were rewarded with the sight of six different locos classes in the station when the Carlisle - Eastleigh Enterprise service, hauled by a Cl.92 with a Cl.66 and Cl.90 dead in transit, was overtaken by a southbound convoy of light engines, made up of two Cl.37s, two Cl.47s, and a Cl.57.
Tuesday 13th May
A detailed listing of observations is available here.
Observation at Chesterfield station
New ground was broken on 13th May when for this informal station and location observation we moved to Chesterfield. Eleven members took part and for some peculiar reason the Liverpool group having travelled via Sheffield spent the day on the station itself - whilst the Chester group having travelled via Derby, still in its rebuilding throes, spent most of the time on the footbridge ten minutes walk north of the station in order to gain a better photo vantage point. There was a brief amicable gathering together in true Dr Livingstone mode before the Liverpool group headed back home first. It was good to see the East Midland Trains HSTs hard at work and there was the bonus of seeing the preserved diesels working south.
Tuesday 29th April
Day out in the North West using Lancashire Day Ranger ticket.
A group of twelve members took advantage of another day ranger ticket on 29th April for one of Geoff Morris’s inspired itineraries. This time it was the Lancashire area that was covered on a generally sunny day. The routes officially covered were Liverpool Central, Southport, Wigan Wallgate, Wigan North Western, Lancaster, Morecambe, Heysham, Lancaster, Preston, Blackpool South, Kirkham & Wesham, Blackpool North, Preston, Ormskirk and back to Liverpool Central. The hairiest connection came at Lancaster with our Voyager running late and the urgent need to get all of the party across the footbridge for the awaiting Heysham train. Apart from passenger control at Blackpool North being over restrictive, station and train staffs were generally very friendly throughout the day with the party.
Tuesday 15th April
A detailed listing of observations is available here.
Observation at Stafford and Nuneaton
Eleven members participated in the informal station observations at Stafford and at Nuneaton on 15th April on a day, which started off brightly enough but degenerated into a cold and very wet afternoon. Some East Midlands Branch members were met amongst at least 40 enthusiasts on the platforms. Both Chester and Liverpool groups joined up at Stafford for an hour or so and later noted the continuing West Coast Main Line upgrading taking place especially at Lichfield Trent Valley. No sooner had the group arrived at Nuneaton than preserved 40145 was noted running light engine towards the Nene Valley Railway having earlier completed its rescue mission for a wrongly routed oil tanks train. A down Pendolino did a spectacular emergency stop through the station in a cloud of dust and brake smoke to enliven the day. This was a change as it is usually difficult to note Pendolino set numbers when they pass through the station at such speed.
Monday 7th April
In his own incorrigible way John has managed to take shots from all sorts of interesting locations across East Anglia with the increasing container traffic on the Felixtowe branch being especially well covered. His scenic views of trains passing over the water at Manningtree were equally fascinating. Not only did we see the many different liveries used but we also heard about how loco viewing points had changed over the years and as to how they could be improved.
The room was bursting to capacity – testament to the anticipation for the evening out.
The last 25 years in East Anglia
John Day
The final meeting of the Port Sunlight season on 7th April had Society Hon Secretary John Day showing us his wonderful selection of colour slides of the past 25 years in East Anglia.
Monday 17th March
Members Slides
Members show up to 30 slides of their choice
The Chester meeting with its members’ slides show on 17th March was a treat for those present. John Cowlishaw presented UK train workings that departed in a half hour period from 09.40; Barry Shore covered the month of March with scenes from 1975 to 1982, including some with Class 502 units; John Feild showed carriage interiors from the past fifty years including those B.R.buffet cars with plastic seats; Robin Whyman highlighted his visits to Calgary and the highly scenic Rocky Mountains ; Geoff Morris showed scenes from across Scotland, complete with unique Forth Bridge views, and of Eurostar pre and post St Pancras; Alan Donaldson showed scenes from 1988 in the UK and in Switzerland/Austria – complete with the tiniest works shunter imaginable at Olten.
Tuesday 11th March
Despite a pessimistic weather forecast it turned out nice in the end for the eleven hardy souls at Warrington Bank Quay on 11th March. The sight of 66429 on a southbound ‘Malcolm’ cheered the three amigos for their first sighting of that loco and we had the rare sight of a Dallam there and back trip working with 08897 hauling nothing! The sight of two Fiddlers Ferry coal workings (one full and the other empty) passing each other on the lower level was a noteworthy sighting, whilst the two smokers exiled briefly to the station car park witnessed some heavy clamping of vehicles that shouldn’t have been there.
A detailed listing of observations is available here.
Observation at Warrington Bank Quay
Monday 3rd March
Yet More American Wanderings
Gordon Davies
The meeting at Port Sunlight of 3rd March was treated to a treat of yet more North American Wanderings from our Branch Chairman, Gordon Davies. Concentrating on a round journey from Atlanta Gordon used slides taken on many of his visits thus being able to recount then and now scenes especially with the New Orleans trams (or trolleys as they call them) before and after Hurricane Katrina. He tends to find rain in Alabama and to our amusement he recounted tales of himself standing on an anthill and of coming face to face with a raccoon. Comment was made from within the audience as to the appearance of the American rail-roads – there being no sign of any weeds. It was a splendid evening’s entertainment.
Tuesday 26th February
Heart of Wales
8 members took a day trip to Swansea, using a Heart of Wales Circular Day Ranger ticket, travelling outwards via the Central Wales line and returning via Cardiff & Hereford. 4 hours without refreshments on a class 153 may not be to everyone's taste but we were appropriately prepared and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. This was not a trip for the number crunchers but one to appreciate the superb Mid-Wales scenery. We were not impressed by the seating arrangements in the refurbished standard class accommodation of the FGW HST between Swansea & Cardiff (only 2 tables per coach, one of them with a restricted view) and cast covetous glances at the luxurious first class accommodation, complete with leather seats. We returned to Chester in a class 158 on a Cardiff - Holyhead service that was well-filled throughout. The journey on the Central Wales line was enlivened by an unscheduled stop to remove a mattress from the track near Llandeilo: the Branch Chairman’s resulting ‘witticism’ about sleepers produced a collective groan from the many passengers who overheard it!
Monday 18th February
Signal boxes of the Aire Valley.
Malcolm Riley
Malcolm Riley came to Chester on 18th February and regaled us with his tales about signal boxes of the Aire Valley. Not only did we learn a great deal about the workings of signal boxes and the men who worked them, but we also learnt a great deal about the changing railway scene in that part of the West Riding since Malcolm started his career way back in 1961. The one time immense parcels traffic at Bradford Forster Square was also related as Malcolm and others played their part in loading parcels onto trains. With several railway visitors in the audience Malcolm’s anecdotes about cleaning tasks both inside and outside of the signal boxes went down very well.
Tuesday 12th February
Three of the Liverpool group who departed from Doncaster on the 15.43 for Manchester Airport just missed their Trans Pennine connection at Manchester Piccadilly. They caught the on time 17.37 East Midlands Trains departure (12.57 ex Norwich) for Liverpool Lime Street with two car unit 158866 which was filled to absolute capacity with standing passengers as far as Warrington Central. Arrival at Lime Street station was 20 minutes late. Another Liverpool member took the 1720 departure for Llandudno as far as Newton le Willows with 175108, which was wedged from Oxford Road. Even though about 40 got out at Newton le Willows passengers were still standing in all three cars on departure.
A detailed listing of observations is here.
The branch is grateful to David Rapson for providing it.
Observation at Doncaster
The observation at Doncaster had both the expected and the unexpected. National Express ECML workings were badly affected following overhead wire problems north of Thirsk and a bridge strike in the Grantham area. Grand Central’s HSTs roared through the station at full tilt and freight workings did not seem as many as been hoped for even though two Class 60 locos followed through on consecutive workings. The sun shone throughout and in addition to the seventeen branch members present we were joined by both Steve Batty and Malcolm Riley. Because of the ECML problems Society President Hugh Gould found himself on platform 3 and so a magic attendance number of twenty was achieved!
Monday 4th February John took numerous views of the work done with the demolition of the fine old ground level Liverpool Central Station through to the opening out of the Northern Line through from Sandhills on the L & Y route and out to Brunswick on the CLC route. Not forgetting the work on the loop line, which had to go under Liverpool’s architectural masterpiece of St George’s Hall.
Civil Engineer Part 3
John Ryan
When new railway histories are written about Merseyside many of those at the Port Sunlight meeting of 4th February will remember the talk that John Ryan gave of the civil engineering works he was involved with in the building of the Merseyrail link and loop lines in the ten year period leading up the launch of the new services in 1977.
Tuesday 29th January
Cheshire Day Ranger outing
The use of Northern Rail’s Cheshire Day Ranger ticket on 29th January produced a new high of 16 members for an enjoyable group outing. Making their own way to Manchester Piccadilly the majority of the group then travelled via Stoke, Crewe, Liverpool, the CLC route to Manchester Oxford Road, Warrington Bank Quay, Ellesmere Port and Hooton before making their own ways back to from where they had started. In particular we travelled on one of just two daily through trains from Warrington Bank Quay to Ellesmere Port. The obliteration of the rail facilities at Stanlow refinery came as a shock to members who worked there only a few years ago. Our large group prompted some surprise from those train conductors checking tickets.
Monday 21st January
The Birkenhead Railway
Edgar Richards
The Chester meeting of 21st January was disappointed that David Burkhill Howart was unable to present his talk on the Abermule Disaster due to illness. Edgar Richards stepped into the breach with a talk on the Birkenhead Railway and interspersed many evocative slides with his own personal anecdotes of happenings on the line since he was an infant in Rock Ferry over 80 years ago. Most of the slides were from the last years of steam in the 1960s, but Edgar had made copies of prints and cards, which highlighted operations over the past 120 years. Naturally he also covered more recent scenes and concluded with a variety of workings leaving Birkenhead Docks.
Tuesday 15th January
The observations recorded were:
10.20 175115 on 08.47 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
Also noted – no timing given: 60076 on 6F78 12.15 Fiddlers Ferry - Liverpool Bulk Terminal
47848 stabled at Warrington Royal Mail at 10.52
On Arpley EWS:- 08389, 08897, 37401, 66078, 66094, 66159, 67014 and 67029
Observation at Warrington Bank Quay
On 15th January, fourteen branch members (including a couple of ‘first timers’) outnumbered the other enthusiasts at Warrington Bank Quay. Daytime mail trains were scheduled to appear and 325007/15 duly worked from Willesden to Warrington RMT and back. 37405 on the Arpley - Ditton Enterprise attracted the most photographic attention whilst Pendolino 390051 was noteworthy because it carried the number ‘051’ on one cab front. One car of 156420 had suffered a heavy graffiti attack on one side with half of the coach being affected. Passenger service punctuality was near-perfect with most services on time and the worst less than 10 minutes late.
10.21 66238 on 6F14 08.32 Stanton Grove- Arpley (empty cargowagons)
10.35 to 11.15 66409 held alongside station from on 4Z34 05.00 Coatbridge - Daventry
10.40 175105 on 10.03 Manchester Picc – Holyhead
10.48 142088 on 10.48 Liverpool – Warrington BQ
10.50 390015 on 08.46 Euston – Glasgow
10.51 175007 on 10.16 Manchester Picc – Llandudno
10.54 221105 on 07.45 Glasgow – Birmingham NS
11.00 150136 on 10.18 Liverpool – Warrington BQ returned to Liverpool at 11.48
11.07 60020 on 6F10 11.24 Arpley – Gladstone Dock (loaded steel)
11.20 175103 on 09.47 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
11.50 175115 on 11.16 Manchester Picc – Llandudno
11.51 390051 on 09.46 Euston – Carlisle
11.56 221143 on 08.51 Edinburgh – Birmingham NS
12.03 325007/015 on late running 1F31 0755 Willesden PRDC - Warrington RMT
12.03 156420 on 11.18 Liverpool – WBQ: returned to Liverpool at 12.48
12.13 390018 non stop on 09.39 Glasgow -Euston
12.15 221109 on 11.03 Birmingham NS – Glasgow
12.19 175113 on 10.44 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
12.20 390030 non stop on 10.29 Euston - Glasgow
12.26 390001 on 11.29 Lancaster – Euston
12.35 66620 passing Arpley on 6F02 12.13 Ellesmere Port - Fiddlers Ferry: passed through low level at 12.55 after run around at Latchford.
12.44 66515 on 4Z78 08.25 Rugeley – Ravenstruther (empty FHH coal hoppers).
12.50 175103 on 12.16 Manchester Picc – Llandudno
12.50 390005 on 10.46 Euston –Lancaster.
12.59 221112 on 10.10 Glasgow – Birmingham N St
13.02 156483 on 12.18 Liverpool – WBQ: returned to Liverpool at 13.48
13.10 390046 on 10.10 Edinburgh – Euston
13.11 221108 on 12.03 Birmingham N St – Edinburgh
13.15 325015/007 on late running 1A32 Warrington RMT - Willesden PRDC
13.20 175110 on 11.47 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
13.35 66405 on 4M44 08.21 Mossend – Daventry (Malcolm).
13.37 37405 dep Arpley on 6F45 13.20 Arpley -Ditton (Foundry Lane) - passed through Low Level at 13.55 after run around at Latchford
13.51 66214 light engine from Arpley to south end bay.
13.50 390043 on 11.46 Euston – Glasgow
13.52 175113 on 13.16 Manchester Picc – Llandudno
13.54 221144 on 10.51 Edinburgh – Birmingham N St
13.58 66238 on 6E33 13.55 Arpley - Immingham
14.01 142047 on 13.18 Liverpool - WBQ: returned at 14.48 for Liverpool
14.05 66406 on 4S44 12.12 Daventry - Coatbridge
14.12 390037 on 11.10 Glasgow – Euston
14.13 221105 on 13.03 Birmingham N St – Glasgow
14.20 175007 on 12.47 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
14.35 150150 on ecs for Helsby
14.50 175110 on 14.16 Manchester Picc – Llandudno
15.31 158226 on 13.20 Holyhead – Manchester Picc
Monday 7th January
Golden Oldies
Slides taken around the country in the last few years of steam in the 1960s
John Cashen
The Port Sunlight meeting room was crammed to capacity on 7th January for the welcome return of John Cashen who spent the evening entertaining us with scenes from the mid 1960s. John had visited most parts of the country and we saw many fascinating shed scenes along with steam in its final years over Shap Summit. The usual LNER/GWR badinage was prevalent throughout the evening especially with scenes in the Swindon scrap line of Class V2s. The early diesel classes received good coverage too. His local coverage was even more fascinating, and this was enhanced by his recounting as to how Class 5 45156’s appearance was transformed through the sheer elbow grease applied by both John and Brian Woodward at Edge Hill early on in 1968.
Monday 17th December 2007
From Crewe to Carlisle
John Feild
It was an evening of nostalgia and fond memories at the Chester meeting of 17th December. With Mrs Joan Appleton’s approval, John Feild presented the late Reg Appleton’s show entitled, ‘From Crewe to Carlisle.’ Reg should have presented this show at Port Sunlight in January 2007 but illness had prevented that. Not only did we see train workings over a period of fifty years on the main line and on the coastal route through Workington, but we also saw many of the many industrial locos that had been seen nearby. Railway themed pub signs were also portrayed. To John and his friends there was the surprise that Reg had actually taken shots of diesel multiple units. John by way of his own tribute also included some portraits of Reg himself.
Tuesday 11th December 2007
On a very bright and crisp day at Warrington Bank Quay on 11th December thirteen branch members were in a festive mood as the Class 67 hauled Northern Belle Christmas Lunch special came through at great speed, and the branch officers provided sustenance of a festive nature to those around them. There was also additional seasonal postal traffic to brighten the day but the freight traffic didn’t seem as much as normal. A twin piston aircraft slowly circled us overhead many times during the afternoon, which gave us the feeling that we were being watched from on high. It transpired later that it was the Cheshire County Constabulary spotter plane checking M62 traffic.
175105 10.23 arrive on 08.47 Llandudno – Manchester Picc.
47769 stabled at Warrington Royal Mail at 15.52
On Arpley EWS:- 08389, 08897,66213,37410,66037,66121,66159,66181 and 67003
WARRINGTON BANK QUAY
66006 10.31 on 6Z30 10.20 Walton Old Junction - Carlisle (earlier seen by Walton Old Jct)
158830 10.43 on 10.03 Manchester - Holyhead
37422 10.46 East Arpley line light as 0F44, 10.10 Foundry Lane – Arpley
66420 +37604 10.49 on 6Z04 06.40 Carlisle - Crewe up water tanks
175002 10.51 on 10.16 Manchester Picc - Llandudno
150222 10.48 on WBQ to Lime Street
221103 11.01 on 07.45 Glasgow - Birmingham New Street
156487 11.02 on 10.18 Liverpool Lime St – WBQ returned back to Liverpool at 11.48
390013 11.11 on 08.10 Glasgow – Euston
325005/8/7 11.18 on 1M29 06.43 Shieldmuir - Willesden PRDC
390045 11.20 delayed 08.46 Euston – Glasgow
66412 11.20 on 4Z34 05.00 Coatbridge -Daventry
175107 11.22 on 09.47 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
60002 11.25 on 6F14 08.32 Stanton Grove- Arpley (seen in Tuebrook sidings at 10.25)
221101 11.32 delayed 10.03 Birmingham N S – Edinburgh
175105 11.50 on 11.16 Manchester Picc – Llandudno
60074 12.00 on 6F10 11.27 Arpley – Gladstone Dock (Passed platform 1 on goods line)
221142 12.03 on delayed 08.51 Edinburgh – Birmingham NS
156482 12.05 late arrival on 11.18 Liverpool – WBQ returned back to Liverpool at 12.48
390009 12.12 non stop on 09.39 Glasgow - Euston
67029 + 67006 12.17 on 1Z67 Northern Belle Xmas Lunch special (11.42 Liverpool - Chester - Stafford (via Shrewsbury) - Liverpool - Chester) later noted departing out of Lime Street at 16.35 with 67006 leading
175106 12.14 on 10.44 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
390001 12.21 on 11.29 Lancaster – Euston
221104 12.28 delayed on 11.03 Birmingham NS – Glasgow
60068 12.30 on Fiddlers Ferry – Arpley sidings (loco later ran l/e to depot for refuelling)
390012 12.32 on 10.46 Euston – Carlisle was due to depart at 11.51 and actually departed 12.34 so running 43 mins late.
390014 12.46 non stop on 10.29 Euston - Glasgow
175107 12.51 on 12.16 Manchester Picc – Llandudno
390024 12.59 north on 10.46 Euston –Lancaster. Later returned at 15.14 ex Lancaster
221107 13.00 on 10.10 Glasgow – Birmingham N St
142012 13.02 on 12.18 Liverpool – WBQ returned back to Liverpool at 13.48
390038 13.12 on 10.10 Edinburgh – Euston
221144 13.14 on 12.03 Birmingham N St – Edinburgh
60058 13.21 on Liverpool Docks – Arpley 7F82 11.45 Liverpool Bulk Terminal – Fiddler Ferry P.S
175115 13.21 on 11.47 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
90028 13.22 on 1Z30 10.26 Willesden –Shieldmuir postal
325006/17/11 13.35 on 1M30 10.12 Shieldmuir - Willesden PRDC
60002 13.41 on 6E33 13.51 Arpley - Immingham
175106 13.52 on 13.16 Manchester Picc – Llandudno
221105 13.54 on 10.51 Edinburgh – Birmingham N St
156469 14.02 on 13.18 Liverpool WBQ (complete with vinyl Leeds – Sheffield fast service) returned back at 14.48 for Liverpool
390022 14.10 on 11.10 Glasgow – Euston
390017 14.12 on 11.46 Euston – Glasgow
221103 14.15 on 13.03 Birmingham N St – Glasgow
175002 14.22 on 12.47 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
142037 14.36 on ecs for Helsby
66428 14.45 on 4S44 12.12 Daventry - Coatbridge
175115 14.50 on 14.16 Manchester Picc – Llandudno
66408 15.00 on 4M44 08.21 Mossend – Daventry.
156459 15.05 on 14.18 Liverpool – Ellesmere Port (one passenger noted)
390003 15.06 on delayed 12.46 Euston –Lancaster
221109 15.10 delayed on 12.10 Glasgow – Birmingham N St
390024 15.14 on 14.29 Lancaster – Euston
221142 15.16 on 14.03 Birmingham N St – Edinburgh
175105 15.21 on 13.47 Llandudno – Manchester Picc
390047 15.23 non stop on 12.49 Glasgow – Euston
158830 15.34 on 13.20 Holyhead – Manchester Picc
142037 15.48 on 16.17 Ellesmere Port - Liverpool
150222 on 15.18 Liverpool L St – WBQ
November 2008